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Started by Dave Hughes, March 15, 2025, 11:31:28 AM

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Dave Hughes

A short video from the great-looking Robert Smail's printing works in the Scottish borders explaining this print-related phrase which has become part of our everyday language.


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QuoteEver wondered where the phrase 'A Dab Hand' comes from? At Robert Smail's Printing Works in the Scottish Borders, Colin takes you back in time to the world of traditional letterpress printing to reveal the surprising origins of this common phrase.

Discover a fascinating part of Scotland's printing history with this hands-on demonstration!

Robert Smail's Printing Works is the oldest working commercial letterpress printers in the UK – a living museum of Victorian history!

An important part of Scotland's industrial heritage, Robert Smail's is cared for by the National Trust for Scotland - the charity that cares for, shares and speaks up for Scotland's magnificent heritage. We're Scotland's largest membership organisation and we're independent from government.

Between 1866 and 1986, newspapers, business cards, stationery for local traders and letterheads all passed through the inky presses of this Robert Smail's. The Trust purchased the printing works in 1986 and have kept it as a genuine working printers.

The printing presses, some of which date back to the Victorian era, can be seen in action; shelves of type line the walls, revealing the changing fashions for typefaces; and 52 giant guardbooks showcase almost every item printed by the family firm.
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Paul W. Nash

I am thinking of founding the Society for Exploding Mythological Typographical Expressions (or SEMTEX).

This is one of them. The interesting thing is that this etymology was taught to apprentices in the British printing industry from at least the beginning of the twentieth century, so that a great many people who worked in the industry believe it to be true.

The OED suggests no origin for the expression "a dab hand" but the uses quoted (traced back only to 1811, when ink-balls were on their way out and were not in any case known as "dabbers") certainly give no indication of a printing origin for the term.

If it were a printing term one might expect to appear in some printing manual or vocabulary of the hand-press period, and I have never found it there.

Indeed, as I say, the noun "dabber" and the verb "dabbing" were not known in the printing industry until the end of the eighteenth century, when they were applied initially to illustrative printing surfaces (chiefly intaglio plates).

Until the middle of the nineteenth century, at least, the noun was invariably "ball(s)" and the verb was "to beat". However, it makes a nice story ...

Alan Thompson

I am also thinking of setting up a group called CRAFTS - Compositors and Readers Against Falling Typographical Standards. Would you like to be our second member?


Dave Hughes

Quote from: Paul W. Nash on March 20, 2025, 10:08:20 AMI am thinking of founding the Society for Exploding Mythological Typographical Expressions (or SEMTEX).

Thanks for posting Paul - I think you're right. I've never heard the word "dabber" or "dabbing" used in connection with the print industry.

The myth, if indeed it is one, seems to have found its way into Google's Artificial Intelligence!

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Dave Hughes

At the risk of incurring the wrath of the Society for Exploding Mythological Typographical Expressions (or SEMTEX) here's Colin again, from Robert Smail's printing works in Scotland.

This time he's telling us about the phrase "Coming a Cropper" - I'm not sure if SEMTEX has approached Colin, but he admits early on in the video that the "origins of the phrase are disputed."

Colin has knocked up a flyer, with odd capitalisation and what appears to be a horizontal exclamation mark to support his disputed theory. I hope this isn't brought to the attention of CRAFTS - Compositors and Readers Against Falling Typographical Standards!




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Paul W. Nash

Never any wrath from the Society for Exploding Mythological Typographical Expressions, of course. Only amusement.

The expression cannot, of course, derive from printing, because the earliest citation in OED comes from 1858, and the first Cropper press was not made until 1867.

That 1858 citation comes from Surtees, so the origins of the term are likely to be in horsemanship or hunting.

The interesting point is that, in the twentieth century, apprentice printers were taught that this, and several other terms, derived from the history of printing, and many still believe it absolutely and won't be convinced otherwise.

Dave Hughes

Quote from: Paul W. Nash on April 08, 2025, 06:50:14 PMThe interesting point is that, in the twentieth century, apprentice printers were taught that this, and several other terms, derived from the history of printing, and many still believe it absolutely and won't be convinced otherwise.

During my apprenticeship I attended Kitson College of Technology in Leeds, UK in the mid 1970s.

I don't recall any mythological typographical expressions being put forward, but several of the lecturers were considered to be rather odd by their teenage pupils, myself included.

One, who shall remain nameless, was very verbose. If there was an opportunity to use twenty or more words when a couple would do he would seize it!

He took us for practical typesetting lessons. One day a fuse had blown and we were unable to use the plug sockets in the room. He announced: "Unfortunately the electrical outlets are inoperable today due to a fault in the 13-amp ring main circuitry."

Another phrase that he used towards the end of every lesson was: "Can you start gearing down now, with a view to finalisation."
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Dave Hughes

Here's Colin again, this time telling us about the phrase "Not the Full Shilling."

I've got to say that I've never heard it used in a printing context.

According to Colin Johannes Gutenberg would measure his type height against an old German Mark. As the German Mark was introduced in 1873, this seems doubtful!

Then, in the UK, according to Colin, the Shilling coin was the same size as the Mark and used to do the same job.

If all this was true I would suggest that a better phrase would be "Up to the Mark."


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