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Posted by Ken Burnley
- July 26, 2023, 06:42:55 PM'Dissing' is short for 'distribution', i.e. distributing type and spaces back into their respective cases and barges.
Posted by Dave Hughes
- July 25, 2023, 11:36:06 PM@wysiwyg suggested making a sub-section of this thread, about wind-ups, trots, etc. in the workplace.
You can see that here: Printers Wind-Ups, Trots, etc.
You can see that here: Printers Wind-Ups, Trots, etc.
Posted by Julius Stafford-Baker
- July 25, 2023, 09:45:53 AMIn the 1950s in a City of London printers, dissing was indeed carefully taking apart a printed forme and placing what was re-usable in their proper places. That remaining was swept into the scrap box along side the stone for remelting.
Pie matter was that accidentally knocked over or dropped. Story for you: Eden Fisher & Co. moved their works and staff to a new factory in Rosebery Avenue. Each case , many hundreds, were carried one at a time, down two flights of wooden stairs at the old Mitre Street works to the lorry.
Needless to say an app dropped one and it was eight point!! a great pile of it. At first no mercy shown by the O. but in due course help was offered, and finally scrap the rest was ordered. Moving an operational medium sized works was quite something of a task, and I had to organise it all!!
Pie matter was that accidentally knocked over or dropped. Story for you: Eden Fisher & Co. moved their works and staff to a new factory in Rosebery Avenue. Each case , many hundreds, were carried one at a time, down two flights of wooden stairs at the old Mitre Street works to the lorry.
Needless to say an app dropped one and it was eight point!! a great pile of it. At first no mercy shown by the O. but in due course help was offered, and finally scrap the rest was ordered. Moving an operational medium sized works was quite something of a task, and I had to organise it all!!
Posted by Dave Hughes
- July 18, 2023, 04:53:43 PMHi Tim, you're the second person to mention screamer. I always thought it was more of an American term, and preferred to call it a "dog's cock."
As for dissed. That usually describes carefully dismantling a page and putting elements that can be re-used away. What you described would be more like "pied" or "pieing."
"Banged out" was pretty universal.
Oh, did you see this: Last Hot Metal Financial Times
As for dissed. That usually describes carefully dismantling a page and putting elements that can be re-used away. What you described would be more like "pied" or "pieing."
"Banged out" was pretty universal.
Oh, did you see this: Last Hot Metal Financial Times
Posted by Tim Holmes
- July 18, 2023, 04:15:01 PMAt the Financial Times in the 60's we used the word 'screamer' for an exclamation mark.
We also used the expression 'dissed' when type was wrongly placed or mixed up or dropped. Could someone confirm this please.
I was 'banged out' when I left the FT in 1968. What an unforgettable experience.
We also used the expression 'dissed' when type was wrongly placed or mixed up or dropped. Could someone confirm this please.
I was 'banged out' when I left the FT in 1968. What an unforgettable experience.
Posted by Dave Hughes
- January 24, 2023, 09:19:24 PMQuote from: DerekC on January 24, 2023, 08:54:20 PMTerms: Gobble for overtime
I have heard that one Derek, but was it exclusive to the print industry?
Posted by DerekC
- January 24, 2023, 08:54:20 PMTerms: Gobble for overtime
Posted by Nick Smith
- July 27, 2013, 03:30:55 PMHas anyone heard the expression 'screamer' for an exclamation mark? This was in a 1920s novel by Dorothy Sayers, who may have picked it up in an advertising agency.
Posted by Don Mountain
- June 25, 2013, 06:18:48 AMRe: Exclamation Mark terminology. It was always Dog's Dick when I was in the trade! Maybe the difference between Australia and the UK?
Posted by Roy Bowker
- June 23, 2013, 05:56:20 PMWhat about the saying (mainly in the letterpress machine room) "He's a pica in the pitch" meaning he's a bit mad. First heard this in 1956 when an apprentice at John Waddington's Stoke Newington, North London.
Posted by Dave Hughes
- November 07, 2011, 11:03:29 PMThanks for that Jim, new one on me!
Posted by Jim Hubbard
- November 07, 2011, 10:40:03 PMMumping - the borrowing of a fount from another typesetter when you don't have the said fount.
Posted by Mechanic
- February 23, 2011, 10:05:10 PM "Galley Rattle": appears to be the Australian equivilant of "Bang-out" Galleys are rattled on stones etc to highlight special events in the newspaper. Probably the last one at the Sydney Morning Herald was on March 25, 1984, when the last hot metal page of the SMH was proofed.
Posted by Dave Hughes
- February 21, 2011, 01:33:01 PMSome time ago George Clark submitted an excellent article to Metal Type entitled:
A Glossary of Printing Trade Terms
Although the article was very informative, I'm sure the list of terms was far from exhaustive.
I'm proposing adding a Second Volume of Printing Trade Terms, hopefully with suggestions made here.
David Minney recently contacted me with a couple of suggestions:
"Bang-out": When a person retires the composing staffs bang/hit the machines or stones or anything made of metal (which is just about everything), while the retiring member is paraded through the composing area; it used to be very noisy.
Con: The continuity shift which occurred after the first edition had gone.
I also have a couple of suggestions that were not included in George's original list.
"Line Cut" -A call made by the Father of the Chapel to indicate it was time to finish work early. Usually shouted when a "Job and finish" task has been completed, such as a Saturday afternoon sports edition. I think the job of shouting "Line Cut" went to the FoC as the Overseer could not be seen to be condoning going home while still being paid!
Dog's Cock - An exclamation mark (!)
If anyone has any other suggestions for Volume Two of Printing Trade Terms, please post them here.
A Glossary of Printing Trade Terms
Although the article was very informative, I'm sure the list of terms was far from exhaustive.
I'm proposing adding a Second Volume of Printing Trade Terms, hopefully with suggestions made here.
David Minney recently contacted me with a couple of suggestions:
"Bang-out": When a person retires the composing staffs bang/hit the machines or stones or anything made of metal (which is just about everything), while the retiring member is paraded through the composing area; it used to be very noisy.
Con: The continuity shift which occurred after the first edition had gone.
I also have a couple of suggestions that were not included in George's original list.
"Line Cut" -A call made by the Father of the Chapel to indicate it was time to finish work early. Usually shouted when a "Job and finish" task has been completed, such as a Saturday afternoon sports edition. I think the job of shouting "Line Cut" went to the FoC as the Overseer could not be seen to be condoning going home while still being paid!
Dog's Cock - An exclamation mark (!)
If anyone has any other suggestions for Volume Two of Printing Trade Terms, please post them here.
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