Withy Grove, Manchester – 2

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Many thanks to Paul Bailey for sharing these photographs. Says Paul: “Hi, found your site a while ago, I started work at Withy Grove Press, Thomson House, Manchester as an apprentice Monotype Caster & Keyboard Operator in the jobbing section, then I moved (upstairs) to the day composing and linotype section, then finally onto nights as a keyboard op on the national dailies.

I knew I had taken some photos, but I had handed them all out to the lads as mementos when Withy Grove closed down. But having recently purchased a neg scanner to digitise family photos, I found the negs of the ones I had taken at Withy Grove.

When Thomson House closed I went into chemical sales for a while, then went back into printing in Skipton at the Craven Herald as an Apple Mac op, worked in Keighley, Ilkley and Bradford before finally ending up in Blackburn at Newsquest North West Headquarters as a graphic designer. Five years ago the design production was farmed off to India. Since then I’ve had the odd job or two, but if some one offered me a job back at Withy Grove I’d snap their hand off. Great place, great blokes … loved it.

Paul Bailey setting the Telegraph TV guide
Paul Bailey setting the Telegraph TV guide.
Denis Barber (Ali)
Denis Barber (Ali)
Paul Bailey seated and George Vale
Paul Bailey seated and George Vale.
Ken Bond
Ken Bond.
Sam Calvert at the Elrods
Sam Calvert at the Elrods.
Racing-up-to-date crew
Racing-up-to-date crew.
Ged, messenger boy and Dave Grant
Ged, messenger boy and Dave Grant.
Dave Heald
Dave Heald.
Denis Sidebottom and Bomber Harris
Denis Sidebottom and Bomber Harris.
Alan Peason
Alan Peason.
Brian Mottershead and Arthur Bond
Brian Mottershead and Arthur Bond.

More pics, added January 2021

Brian Stafford sent in these pictures. If you have any pictures taken at Withy Grove that you would like to see here please get in touch.

Doc's retirement, Withy Grove
Doc’s retirement from the Handicap Book. Left-Right: Brian Stafford (always fell asleep for photos); Arthur Bond; Doc Holliday; Jack (old pal) after he’d trapped his finger in the delivery guide on an Intertype (ouch!).
Brian Stafford typesetting on an Intertype in 1985 at Thomson Withy Grove, taken by Doc Holliday.
Brian Stafford typesetting on an Intertype in 1985 at Thomson Withy Grove, taken by Doc Holliday.

New pics added September 2021

Many thanks to Heather Stewart for sending in this picture of her father Norman Douglas Stewart who worked on the Daily Mirror from 1976 to 1984.

Heather also added to the Comments.

Norman Douglas Stewart, Daily Mirror typesetter, 1976-1984
Norman Douglas Stewart, Daily Mirror typesetter, 1976-1984

Heather also sent in these photos from her father’s collection, but has no idea as to who is in the pics. If you can shed any light on them, please comment below.

Withy Grove Sporting Chronicle Chapel
Says Heather: “So I don’t know who is in the following photo, but I reckon that guy in the shiny suit is a boss.. Although maybe not, but he’s dressed like someone with money. Notice the plaque it says Sporting Chronicle Chapel, I wonder if that’s the Chapel people were talking about on your page. Maybe it’s because the photos of the people already on your page, they were the printers of the Horse Racing Newspaper etc (only just figured out what Handicap Book meant, lol). And so the people in the photos I’ve attached below, they might be the printers of the “Nationals” Daily Mirror/Daily Telegraph.

 

Manchester Arndale Centre pub
Says Heather: “The boss guy in that shiny suit again, with the matching tie…. Anyway, if you look closely, that’s Thompson House, through the window! Actual proof, lol. The building had those weird protuberances on the outside walls below the windows. Photo of Thompson House This photo must’ve been in a club or pub, in the Arndale Centre, (before it was modernised after the IRA bomb), there were weird buildings with those weird rounded oblong windows. If you put this on, mention that it’s Thompson House in the background maybe. Maybe it was the leaving do for the guy in the suit.. No idea who these people are again!
Withy Grove visit
Says Heather: “So I don’t know what’s going on here, some kind of visit by bosses maybe, but there is my dad in the Blue overalls. Again, sadly, I don’t know who any of them are, more bosses in suits in the middle. More typesetting! I don’t even know, if my dad ever advanced to the Linotype machines, is that what people did? Advance on to those. But hand typesetting was a skill too. I have been watching videos today, I didn’t know the difference of it all. Unless people like my dad organised the type after it was created by the Linotype machine, I guess he did that!? He was very clever, if there was advancement available, he’d have been capable. These photos are probably from when I was about 4/5 so around 1981/82, maybe (judging by my dads hair). Think that first separate photo of my dad was about 78/79.
Withy Grove group
Says Heather: “Another group photo, with my dad on the left. I don’t know who any of these men are either.. The guy with the chain round his neck…. No idea where they are either. But they are definitely Printers, I know that.

New Pics November 2023

I have been contacted recently by Derrick Lumb, who sent me these two photographs. I have asked him for further information, names, dates, etc. but so far have received no response. If anyone would like to shed some light on these pictures, please do so in the comments.

In the first one everyone seems to be holding one of their shoes in their hand! Derrick says: “The photo with shoes is comps showing their shoes bought from Albert or Stuart, you could buy almost anything on the shop floor.”

This next one, in colour, I guess would have been taken at a later date.

Stuart Holmes, from night lino comps, contacted me with a couple of photos. He said: “It would be nice to see our names on the site, good memories of happy days.”

So, here’s the night Linos staffing list from about 1985.

Staffing list 1985

Stuart also sent in this one of a banging-out ceremony. “Banging out ceremony, everyone shaking hands with the retiree passing through the composing room to the noise from banging of metal on the stones.”

Banging out Withy Grove

Here’s another one from Stuart. “Withy Grove Night Lino Comps football team ready to play against Lino team.”

Withy Grove football team

Still on a sporting theme . . . “Stermac B bowling team, Thomson Withy Grove. I was the only compositor to play with these stereo department lads. Arthur Grewer was captain. 1980s.” said Stuart.

Stermac B bowling team

“We were well paid in the Comps. Felt like millionaires on a 26 hour week.”

Wage rates

“A happy face you may remember,” says Stuart.

A happy face.

Bringing it right up to date . . . a recent reunion.

Printers reunion

“Lino Ops, Tony Power.”

Printers reunion

John Latham, electrician worked 3 floors down in the cellars where all the power sources for the machines etc. were installed. His father Bert was a lino op and is shown on his retirement night in an earlier photo where he is wearing a silver suit and with the Chapel Committee of the Night Lino.

Withy Grove electricians

Eric Earnshaw added: “The Withy Grove Fellowship Christmas lunch which includes John Latham, I’m the bearded person sat next to John, and was employed at TWG from January 1967 to 1985. I was an electrician working my way to Deputy Chief Electrician under David Blance. In 1985 I was employed at TPP as chief electrician then Technical Manager, I left TPP in 1990 to become chief engineer at Knowsley. My father was the building manager.
The gentleman next to me is Stuart Gattens, another electrician and next to him is Gary Rochford ex electrician who is now chairman of the fellowship.

 

Enjoyed the photos? Well, you’ve found the main page! But there’s another couple of pages on Metal Type you may have missed. More photos here: Withy Grove (no names for the people photographed though, maybe you could help out in the Comments) – and some pics sent in by Eric Saltmarsh here: Men and Machines. 

NEW: Withy Grove Forum

There has been such a large response to these posts that I have decided to set up a special sub-board on the Metal Type forum. I hope people will find it useful.

55 thoughts on “Withy Grove, Manchester – 2”

  1. Wow, a proper blast from the past! I was only a ragarse at the time, but still keep up with Dave Heald now and again, he will love these. Great pictures Plunger!

    1. Glad you enjoyed them Steve. I love the workplace pics. Dave Heald seen them yet?

      1. I have just text him the website, he will be in his element, especially the one where he is holding a tray of whiskey glasses in one hand and an empty bottle in the other . . . priceless!

  2. Lucky we had more full bottles of whiskey in the Chapel Office.

    Dave Heald F.o.C.

    1. What was the celebration Dave? Or was it “normal business.” Have you got any pics that could be used on the site?

      1. It was normal business. Are you an enthusiast about the world we lived in? I don’t recall your name. Dave Heald

        1. Worked on the Evening Press in York and South London Press as a Lino op. Nearest I came to your area was on the picket line at the Stockport Messenger

  3. Wonderful times I was an apprentice machine manager at a Kent paper (Gravesend Reporter). The pics just reminded how the print industry was, full of unforgettable characters, lots of tradition and the unions were so very strong because of genuine support for your fellow colleagues.

    1. I started work at Kemsley House, Withy Grove Press, in the summer of 1961 as a printer and bookbinder I have wonderful memories of my time there I was no stranger to the old place as my mother use to take me to work with her during my school holidays she worked in the canteen her name was Ann she use to take the trolly round in the afternoons, I don’t think there was a room in the old place that I hadn’t been in, even now I write chapters of my time made in Dagenham had nothing on us all, I even took over as MOC when Edith Johnson retired. Sadly I loss track of Les Byers from the print room when friends reunited folded
      Susan Baker (nee DUNN)

      1. Hi Susan, Glad you enjoyed the pics. M.o.C – a thankless task, but plenty of time off work for meetings (that’s my experience as an ex- F.o.C.). Lets hope Les Byers spots the article and makes contact.

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